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	<title>Comments on: Monday&#8217;s Top Three News Stories (BBC, NBC, PBS, CBC/CTV: Quebec Election Coverage): 03/26/07</title>
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	<description>Taking Back Aboot One Eh At A Time</description>
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		<title>By: feartheseeds</title>
		<link>http://culturalsnafu.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/mondays-top-three-news-stories-032607/#comment-355</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have a constitution and a parliament and two leaders who goaded and supported people to kill their neighbours. Ian and, to a lessor extent maybe, Gerry should be in jail for jointly  screaming &quot;Fire&quot; in a crowded theatre then claiming the resulting deaths were the cause of something that happened 400 years ago. I understand the political necessity of having them sign a piece of paper in front of some cameras.  And even of keeping them around as figureheads.

It wasn&#039;t the &quot;US&quot; who stopped supporting the Real IRA or the Actual IRA, it was the Irish Americans living safely in America and, to a lessor degree, Canada who were donating money to The Cause back home on either side. Tens of millions of Canadian and American dollars were spent buying guns for both sides in Northern Ireland.

Basically it comes down to Gerry and Ian gave the speeches,  Irish Americans gave the money, and the Irish gave their lives.  After 9/11 the Irish Americans, who had already cut way back on the donations, cut them altogether which killed the Real IRA.

The Irish people couldn&#039;t stop any of this from happening. They had no guns, they had no votes, the British Government turned Northern Ireland into a prison camp, the funding for the militants was out of civilian hands and the lunatics calling themselves &quot;Patriots&quot; were what the insurgents in Iraq are now: fanatics who wouldn&#039;t stop murdering for their cause.

The people with the guns have finally been marginalized so Northern Ireland will recover, they&#039;ll be fine. Ireland is humming with new business and new wealth. That will spread North. 

But Gerry and Ian, the Fucks, must never be celebrated for orchestrating a peaceful end to a useless and meaningless war they or their organizations started. They and their organizations are not, and have never been, Northern Ireland. They and their organizations have done everything they could to kill anyone who disagreed with their fanaticism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have a constitution and a parliament and two leaders who goaded and supported people to kill their neighbours. Ian and, to a lessor extent maybe, Gerry should be in jail for jointly  screaming &#8220;Fire&#8221; in a crowded theatre then claiming the resulting deaths were the cause of something that happened 400 years ago. I understand the political necessity of having them sign a piece of paper in front of some cameras.  And even of keeping them around as figureheads.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t the &#8220;US&#8221; who stopped supporting the Real IRA or the Actual IRA, it was the Irish Americans living safely in America and, to a lessor degree, Canada who were donating money to The Cause back home on either side. Tens of millions of Canadian and American dollars were spent buying guns for both sides in Northern Ireland.</p>
<p>Basically it comes down to Gerry and Ian gave the speeches,  Irish Americans gave the money, and the Irish gave their lives.  After 9/11 the Irish Americans, who had already cut way back on the donations, cut them altogether which killed the Real IRA.</p>
<p>The Irish people couldn&#8217;t stop any of this from happening. They had no guns, they had no votes, the British Government turned Northern Ireland into a prison camp, the funding for the militants was out of civilian hands and the lunatics calling themselves &#8220;Patriots&#8221; were what the insurgents in Iraq are now: fanatics who wouldn&#8217;t stop murdering for their cause.</p>
<p>The people with the guns have finally been marginalized so Northern Ireland will recover, they&#8217;ll be fine. Ireland is humming with new business and new wealth. That will spread North. </p>
<p>But Gerry and Ian, the Fucks, must never be celebrated for orchestrating a peaceful end to a useless and meaningless war they or their organizations started. They and their organizations are not, and have never been, Northern Ireland. They and their organizations have done everything they could to kill anyone who disagreed with their fanaticism.</p>
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		<title>By: puddlejumper</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all well and good saying that &quot;this fuck&quot; and &quot;that fuck&quot; sat in the same room or that the US pulled it&#039;s funding but the bottom line is they have a parliament with a constitution that no longer condones segregation or discrimination.

That to me is something we should be really pleased about.  The war over there is for now stopped.

As a Brit I am ashamed of the way my government handled the situation over there.  As a half Irish Catholic I am ashamed at what certain sections of my heritage did in retaliation.

By simply saying &quot;the US&quot; pulled the plug completely disregards the work put in by NI herself and the people and voluntary sector organisations who have worked tirelessly and peacefully to try and bring both sides together. 

I have friends who live, and grew up there, I&#039;ve worked with kids over there.

If you had told me   15 years ago that Gerry and Ian would be sitting in the same room signing anything I would have laughed.

But the younger generation on both sides have seen what their parents bickering has got them.

The economy in NI was ruined by the war.  Everyone became working class.  In the end that&#039;s what united them.

The dregs of fundamentalism that remain are more tied up in the poverty and who has control of drug culture on the big estates  now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all well and good saying that &#8220;this fuck&#8221; and &#8220;that fuck&#8221; sat in the same room or that the US pulled it&#8217;s funding but the bottom line is they have a parliament with a constitution that no longer condones segregation or discrimination.</p>
<p>That to me is something we should be really pleased about.  The war over there is for now stopped.</p>
<p>As a Brit I am ashamed of the way my government handled the situation over there.  As a half Irish Catholic I am ashamed at what certain sections of my heritage did in retaliation.</p>
<p>By simply saying &#8220;the US&#8221; pulled the plug completely disregards the work put in by NI herself and the people and voluntary sector organisations who have worked tirelessly and peacefully to try and bring both sides together. </p>
<p>I have friends who live, and grew up there, I&#8217;ve worked with kids over there.</p>
<p>If you had told me   15 years ago that Gerry and Ian would be sitting in the same room signing anything I would have laughed.</p>
<p>But the younger generation on both sides have seen what their parents bickering has got them.</p>
<p>The economy in NI was ruined by the war.  Everyone became working class.  In the end that&#8217;s what united them.</p>
<p>The dregs of fundamentalism that remain are more tied up in the poverty and who has control of drug culture on the big estates  now.</p>
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		<title>By: Queen Minx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Queen Minx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>‘(written in the blood of many an Irish man woman and child)’ … not just Irish, Gabriel.  
The deaths are the ‘A’  side of the ‘bloody’ contract … the ‘B’ side are the lives that were ruined by this war … the torture, the mistrust, the ingrained prejudices carved into hearts over years of segregation, the manipulated loyalties, a country ravaged by fear and suspicion, and a people forcibly divided for generations.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>‘(written in the blood of many an Irish man woman and child)’ … not just Irish, Gabriel.<br />
The deaths are the ‘A’  side of the ‘bloody’ contract … the ‘B’ side are the lives that were ruined by this war … the torture, the mistrust, the ingrained prejudices carved into hearts over years of segregation, the manipulated loyalties, a country ravaged by fear and suspicion, and a people forcibly divided for generations.<br />
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